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Location:

Mesa,AZ,

Member Since:

Apr 04, 2007

Gender:

Female

Goal Type:

Marathon Finish

Running Accomplishments:

Prs:

1 mile:  6:31

5K:  23:37

Half Marathon: 2:04

My first post-high school 5K, in which I thought I was going to die

The first time I won my age division.  Yippee!

My first half marathon, in which I attack Sasha

The time I beat my high school PR for the 5K (as a 31 year-old mommy of 3!)

My first 5K barefooted

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

I'm just getting back into running after a long break to have my last child.  I would like to race some 10Ks, a half, and a marathon in the next 2 years.

Long-Term Running Goals:

Be the oldest woman to complete a marathon.  Yea!  But hopefully I will also complete some BEFORE I geezer up, like, before I'm 40 for sure.  I think it would be fun to dress up really strange for marathons, like impersonating celebrities and stuff.  Except I don't really like celebrities, as a rule, so maybe I'll have to stick to the age old question of ninja, or pirate.  I say ninja. *Hyah!*

Personal:

I am happily married to James W (Cool Runnings). We have 3 boys and 1 opinionated little girl.  I love reading and I'm also a news junkie.  I am a stinker.

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Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 0.00 Year: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.500.004.50

Wow, I am sore EVERYWHERE. It is much simpler to list the places that I am NOT sore, which include the top of my head, my facial muscles, my hands and forearms, and the bottoms of my feet.

Now I'm off to my first session with this All-American track star turned personal trainer.

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Well, ########## was the personal trainer at this gym who supposedly is an expert runner. He was a track star in shorter distances, I guess. I was not that impressed in his theories on distance running. He tried to sell me on the idea that you really don't need to run more than 20 miles a week if your goal race is the 5k. He also said I shouldn't try to get a certain time in the Striders Half, I should just see if I could finish. He says I'm going to die with the altitude. I never thought of that. Am I going to die with the altitude difference? I train at something like 2,500 ft.

One thing ########### is an expert at is speed. I think he set a world record for the number of times a person has offended me in under 5 min. He expressed shock and disapproval that

1.) I got married so young (I was 20)

2.) I have so many children (3!)

3.) My high school 5K PR was so slow (I'll give him that one)

4.) I run 30 miles a week (excessive?)

He also told me that he has some kind of biophysical issue that prevents him from doing well at distance events. Evidence: he said that the first 2 miles of a 5K will be 5:00, and then his 3rd mile will be 7:00. I told him he just needed to up his miles a bit (I think he does something like 15 a week) and he'd be right up there. He laughed.

ANYWAY, I ran 4.5 outside tonight really slowly. I intended to do more, but my muscles gradually got tighter and tighter as I ran until I started to feel concerned. So we'll see how I do tomorrow.


Night Sleep Time: 7.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 7.00
Comments
From andee on Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 10:56:43

My husband thinks I'm crazy, but I think being sore is a "good hurt". It makes me feel like I've really done something. Now you are getting serious to be meeting a track star trainer...lots of records to be made and broken by Lybi this year!!!

From Michael on Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 11:56:10

Congrats on your new post high school PR for a 5K. I guess Ill have to work hard now to keep up with you

From Bethany on Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 13:24:48

Such an awesome PR for the ever amazing Lybi. Im excited for you! I agree with andee- I like it when it is a good hurt- when i have done it to myself by working my body. Great job Lybi, you never cease to impress, entertain, enlighten and educate me.

From Brent on Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 20:18:50

Always interesting to see what the Lyster is up to. Isn't it great, sore for the right reasons. Wait until how mmuch more sore fun you will have after the St. George marathon this year.

Stay Cool, B of BS Rools out

From Jody on Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 21:17:23

I'm with Andee, growing up we loved to work out so hard that we would be sore. It is a good hurt. Means you ran hard! Nice job!

From Christi on Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 21:50:17

Hey Lybster! I'd be REALLY jealous if you weren't a little sore. Aren't I mean?! Who is this wonder trainer you speak of?

From James on Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 23:12:24

Nice picture from Saturday. You do need a little brighter pink for these summer races though!

From laura on Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 23:59:13

Well, I hope you took copious notes from this wonder boy "trainer"!!! He sounds like a real Winner!! :oS *sheesh* Maybe YOU should get a job there. You'd have much better advice without offending your potential clients.

From James W on Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 00:22:27

Good job getting out there today and getting in the miles. You have really made some huge improvements, and I think you can look forward to even more improvement as you maintain consistent mileage. I'm with Laura - I'll call him the personal "drainer" :)

From Michelle on Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 01:28:42

Lybi, I can just see the smoke that was starting to come out of your ears as the two of you talked! I hope that you gave him a little piece of your mind in the KINDEST way! WIll the two of you be seeing each other again for a re-match?

From Benn on Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 08:00:32

So sorry that the trainer bonked! Heh, makes you wonder since those trainers get so much money.. how much better a real runner can do coaching long distance people. As for the elevation difference, it will hurt I imagine, but you already train in some kind of altitude living in Mesa I assume. So you'll be fine. Remember it's 80% mental. And you've been logging miles. Just believe and the run will fall into place.

From sarah on Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 09:40:50

Well that Mike Neward guy sounds like ...somebody that would have made me cry...what would he think of me with no High School PR at all...the first time I ran a 5K I was 28 and I did half of it pushing child number 1. I also got married at 20 and have 5 going on hopefully 10 children....sounds like it was an interesting meeting.

From Christi on Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:32:32

What a guy! Guess you won't be signing up for any more sessions with him?! (j/k) That is LAME! Whether he's speedy or not, I say you know much more about running than him- so you can just blow him off!!

SO- how's the house cleaning coming along (*wink*)

From Brent on Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 13:01:22

Lybi: Opinions are like """""", everyone has one.

Just a note, you have some top knowledge runners on the blog, from Olympic qualifiers, winners of marathons, etc. They all would be glad to give you a training plan. Paul Petersen took the time to answer me on tempo runs. A good personal running coach is tough to find, I would suggest talking to local running clubs and meet some other runners. Getting faster, stronger, etc. really works better if you can find training partners that are shooting for similar goals. Look at the progress of Mike Warren and MarcieJ.

Good luck. Call BS when needed, B of BS Rools out

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 17:48:12

It does make me marvel at how willing people are to pay for nicely wrapped and packaged things that are of a lesser quality than what is available for free but is perhaps not so nicely packaged. I firmly believe that if we were to change our mindset in this matter the United States could maintain at least the same standard of living with the average person working only 20 hours a week. Possibly even less. We spend half of what we earn buying colorful packaging on the consumer end, and half of our time creating the colorful packaging on the producer end. More often than not the real competition is in the area of packaging, with the essence behind the package considered somewhat of a necessary evil to be kept to the very minimum.

Applying the above principle to gyms, my advice to all FRB members to stay away from them unless you know exactly which piece of equipment you need, for how long, and what exactly you plan to accomplish with it. Even then, consider a more natural training option first. And by all means, do not hire an average gym personal trainer. I would venture to say that unless he has run a sub-3:00 marathon, he would be of little help in the area of distance running.

From S Browning on Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 19:28:23

I tend to think of myself as nicely packaged - and by that, I look the part. I am a personal trainer too. Finding a good trainer is often not easy, and as Sasha states, packaging does not equal quality. Trainers are a dime a dozen, but a great trainer is a rare find, and worth the investment because they can educate you on all the things you need to be successful in a gym environment. Before starting with a trainer you should invest time asking a lot of questions about there philosophies and there background, all the certifications in the world mean nothing. I cannot tell you the number of trainers I have met that know next to nothing about human movement let alone athletic performance. My advice, be honest with this trainer, let him know you strongly disagree with his position of running performance, you have the knowledge to know what he is saying is not correct. Do not let his appearance and title discourage you from correcting this information. I almost agree with Sasha, a solid distance and competitive running background is helpful when designing strength programs for other runners. A good trainer will accept the status of all aspects of your life and work with you to create and accomplish the goals that are most important to you. In regards to altitude, it will not have that great an effect on your performance.

From Lybi on Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 00:38:44

Thanks for your comments, everyone.

Andee, I do like feeling a little sore--it feels good to stretch it and rub it. Being massively sore is not exactly my cup of hot chocolate, though. :)

Christi--I have another appointment with him on Friday. At least he can show me how to use the equipment without hurting myself. Plus, it was cool for him to do all the tests and stuff to tell me my body fat and so forth. (P.S. there was no deadline set on the odious cleaning penalty, so... He he he. JK, I'm planning on doing it tomorrow. The dust bunnies under my refrigerator get one more night of peaceful rest before annihilation.)

Brent you get the award for best quote of the day. "Call BS when needed, B of BS Rools out." Made me smile. And true too!

Sasha, your comment leaves me scratching my head. No comforting words about dealing with altitude? Only the same thing about how people (usually me) leave "the real thing" in favor of the "more palatable thing". I'm still doing the free membership, deciding if it is going to work for me. The biggest benefit to it is that my kids have a fun place to go, outside of our house, where they can play with other kids while I exercise. This is especially important in the rapidly approaching summer months, when no one goes outside if they can help it. Right now I'm leaning towards not doing it though, because I'm cheap.

S Browning--man, I wish YOU were my personal trainer! You would know all the great stuff that could help my running and help me prevent injury. I hope you are appreciated! None of the trainers at this gym are runners. This guy's claim to fame was in the high jump. He is not really a fan of running. He's also not as bad as I made him sound.

From sarah on Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 09:28:25

As far as what I've heard altitude does affect your race a little bit..But I don't think it's anything to worry about...not like you are going to a different planet with 5 times the gravity. It just may slow you down like 10 seconds a mile or something....I'll get Sasha to give you a real answer when he gets a chance later today.

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 17:07:56

Lybi - expect about 15-20 seconds per mile slowdown for Striders half. You should still be able to go under 2 hours even with the altitude. No need to worry about the altitude. You cannot even the mountains of Utah with the sea by worrying, but you can experience the effect by training. The more fit you are, the less you notice the altitude even if you never did any altitude training. Speaking of which, Flagstaff is only a couple of hours away from you. To get a feel of the altitude, go there one weekend for your run. This should give you a boost of confidence. Eden is about 3000 feet below Flagstaff.

Some discouragement in regards to the gym membership. You improved from dreaming to run a 5 K at 12:00 pace to actually running it at sub-8:00 pace and being within 42 seconds of your seemingly unreachable high school PR in less than a year without a gym membership. I challenge you to find somebody in your gym who could boast a comparable improvement and credit it to the gym. There are lots of other fun places for the kids to go that are free.

From Susan on Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 17:33:40

Lybi--

I LOVE my gym membership! My children are old enough now that I don't need to use the daycare anymore, but when they were younger it was SO NICE to be able to take them there to play when I either couldn't (or wouldn't) get up to workout before they woke up.

I run a lot (indoors and out) but also enjoy the benefits of cross training. My house (and my budget) isn't big enough to hold a treadmill, elliptical, stair master, and free weights!

Just my $.02! I love reading your blog!

From Susan on Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 17:38:18

One more thing--I also really enjoy the variety of classes that are typically included with a gym membership. Kickboxing, step aerobics, yoga, pilates, spinning, weights--I've tried and benefitted from them all!

A weight class would be a good way to become familiar with lifting and learn what to do to prevent injury.

From Lybi on Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 19:16:10

Thanks for the altitude info, Sasha. That does help! I think taking the fam. to Flagstaff for a day trip is a great idea!

And Susan, thanks for your $.02. The weight class is my favorite thing about the gym.

Isn't it great that Sasha is always looking out for my pocketbook? It's like he's a free financial adviser on top of being a running coach. This is a full service blog! ;)

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 19:19:32

Yes, it even comes with the Loan Interest Calculator. Staying out of debt plays a major role in being able to put in the miles.

From Scott Zincone on Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 00:19:58

I go to the gym because the indoor pool is heated in the Winter, and larger than my bath tub. Ride the bike during the Winter as well. But do not go in warmer weather for anything but the pool.

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